Intro

Welcome to The Corvus Effect, where we take you behind the scenes to explore integrated self leadership and help ambitious family men build lasting legacies for themselves, their tribe, and their community. I'm Scott Raven, and together we'll discover how successful leaders master a delicate balance of career advancement, personal health, financial growth, and meaningful relationships. Get ready to soar.

Global Perspective and Travel

And hello everybody. Welcome back to this episode of The Corvus Effect. Today we're joined by Kare LaPage, a global marketing leader turned resilience trainer who's on a mission to help professionals do their best work without sacrificing their mental health.

From leading teams across five continents to climbing Mount Kiwanja. Carre has learned that resilience isn't about avoiding challenges. It's about developing the tools to handle them better. He has started the Resilient Minds movement and brings a unique global perspective across 20 plus years of experience and across Tokyo, Australia, and now Canada.

And on a personal note. Both of our sons played in baseball tournaments and won their tournament this weekend, so we got a great starting point. Kare, welcome to the podcast,

Scott, thanks for having me, man. And yes, it always feels good to have a tournament win under the belt.

Absolutely, absolutely. Seeing the boys, hold up that, number one and whatever the, bling is right. That's just, special. Well, I'll put it that way. And you know, I could just start there with the word special because you are special, sir. Right. If I understand correctly, Australia to Tokyo.

To Vancouver, so you certainly have logged a lot of miles and seen a lot of different places in this world, and I think for one, you have a unique global perspective that not many of my listeners would actually have.

Yeah, I feel very fortunate. I grew up in a household with travel at the heart. You know, my dad worked all over the world. I was actually born in Tokyo. I dunno if I shared that with you. I start, yeah, I started my life in a foreign land for me and spent my early years in Tokyo and then of, of course Australia, which is where I'm from.

And then I went back to Japan, in my early twenties after I graduated university for travel for a couple of years. Then I've done a lot of travel throughout that, but then it landed in Vancouver back in 2012, and I've been here ever since.

Wow. And you know, a lot of what you bring to the table, and we're gonna go heavily into resilience, but part of it is that that perspective that you've brought with you across so many different areas of your life. You describe it as it can be a passport away from the prisons we seek to escape, and I think that's a beautiful statement.

I'd love for you to elaborate that with a listening

Yeah, I've always. Thought that travel or perspective can be a passport or a prison. It really depends on how you wanna look at a situation. and I think perspective is one of the key ingredients when it comes to resilience. because we often look at things that happen to us and we automatically label them as good or bad.

But we have the power to be able to change that. and that comes in particularly handy with travel in particular, because sometimes you're out of your comfort zone. In fact, a lot of the times you're out of your comfort zone traveling and things can get frustrating. But then if you take a second and actually think, well, hang on a sec.

Like how lucky am I to be in a foreign land? Although this might be a challenge, I'm probably learning something fantastic at this point in time, and that's what I try and do. You know, I try and think about that being like, this is a passport. You don't have to travel to get that. But it's a really great metaphor and I think travel is, you know, that key to opening up our minds to whole new perspectives.

Certainly, like I remember back during my, corporate days that I needed to, fly to be with the development team in Bangalore, India for a couple of weeks. And the first couple of days that I was there, I was definitely up. Fish out of water, completely new perspective. And then I got more comfortable as, and it's just a wonder, it was a wonderful experience, but much like, you know, you're saying that was a life experience that changed me and helped shape my approach to how I saw things from a mental perspective.

And I know one of the biggest things that you bring to the table are life experience that help shape your approach to mental challenges.

Kilimanjaro Transformation

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are many with my trips around. World and different interactions I've had with people. but one in particular stands out, which is my trip to Kilimanjaro, which I did I think in 2016, which was both the hardest day of my life and probably the most rewarding, I was very sick on the way leading up to the summit. and I got very, very unwell. but I used these tools that I'd been practicing and I, I had all these sort of things at my disposal and I had a lot of help as well. And it just taught me a lot about how, you know, getting outta your comfort zone is one thing, but then also getting through that pain and that hard challenge.

it really gives you the confidence to be able to do. Anything. from there, that's actually sort of, that, shifted me into a whole new trajectory, which is the, the journey that I'm on now, with resilient Minds.

Yes. Yes. And I do wanna get to resilient minds in just a second, but I wanna stay on Kilimanjaro for just a second. Right. I had never been a mountain climber in my life, was a marathon runner. Understood that there was a lot of prep in marathon to be able to handle the mental game on race day.

I'm curious in terms of the prep that you put in prior to that summit at

Yeah, well, I've always been a runner myself. Nothing, well, I have done a, a marathon, but you know, I'm not a run a marathon a year kind of guy. I, I like to run.

I'm retired, by the way, so Yeah. You're, you're doing better than I am. I'll put it that way.

Well, we, I got lucky actually, so I lived in Vancouver, but uh, leading up to Kili, I did a house swap with, some friends of mine in Toronto. So we got exposed to very harsh temperatures leading up to that. So this was January, February, we were in Toronto. My wife and I and I went running in the freezing cold.

Several times. and that was in, yeah, Jan Feb. And then that I did the Kelly trip in March, so I was pretty prepped. I'd done all that sort of like harsh intensity, training and I just felt I. That I was ready. I mean, I've been a pretty fit guy my whole life. But again, you know, you never know how altitude is gonna hit you.

and the food, and any range of things, you know, you get a cold or someone's sick, you could pick up a bug. So you just gotta roll with the punches and be as best prepared as you can.

Yep. Now, I know on your website Resilient Minds that you have your picture at the summit with the signage saying you hit the top of Kilimanjaro. What does that picture mean to you all these years later?

You know, it means more than you would think, because that day is like, I'm, I think I'm wearing sunglasses in the pick. And what you can't see is just, I mean, an incredible amount of pain. and that's both physical and emotional pain because it had been a real struggle. I. that picture was taken about 10:00 AM and most people's summit at 6:00 AM so we were four hours behind pretty much everyone else.

In fact, we were the last people on the mountain because we were so slow. Our group, a lot of people got sick and myself in particular. so when I see that pick, it's probably almost like a, turning point in my life. You know? It was that moment where I remember, hey, yeah. I did that. It was extremely hard and now I use that as fuel.

Every time something is really hard. I just remember that trip and I remember how I got through that and I can pretty much get through anything. I think I.

And I think that that's what makes you such a perfect. Conduit and spokeperson for what you're doing with resilient minds and really addressing the mental hi health crisis with, we were talking about this offline, some very alarming statistics about mental health, particularly with the advent of transformative technologies like ai.

I'll let you elaborate much better than I can on this.

The Mental Health Crisis

Yeah, I mean, I just read this morning actually about a statistic, which is 66% of Americans report some sort of burnout every year. Right? That's two outta three. so, which, that's burnout. I. That is also exacerbated by anxiety and additional stress that comes with, you know, the modern workforce. And I've noticed that in my teams in the past as well and conversations that I've had at various events where you talk to people and there's a lot of fear around, AI taking roles.

There's also a lot of fear in the environment right now with inflation and tariffs. A lot of talk of tariffs right now, so. I think all of those things add up to additional stress on top of the workload that everyone's trying to balance as well. and yeah, I just notice in, in conversations that people are.

At capacity and, they're very fragile. And so, yeah, I think it's, I think there's a need for us to try and do what we can now, like coming back to what you talk about with preparation for a marathon or climbing kill, you know, if we hadn't done those things leading up to those challenging times, there's a chance we wouldn't have finished.

The trip, you know? And that's, that's what I try and talk about, like do the work now, get ready, get in a good mental place so that when tough times come, which they inevitably will, we can be best prepared. I.

Right now, I know that you are looking at it from a much broader perspective that resilient minds applies to everyone. But where you first saw this was in your direct experience as a marketing leader with creative professionals, and the toll that they were undertaking because their natural people pleasers.

And I would love to get your perspective in terms of how you have these people. Who are putting their heart and their soul into the things that are being asked, and that is not being reciprocated by the other party, and how that affects you psychologically.

Creative Professionals Under Pressure

Yeah, it's a really good point. I mean, we are creative professionals. We sort of blur the line between business and art. I think when you work in marketing or advertising, um, but that doesn't mean that you are half, half. It means that you put everything of both. I. Into your work. And, what I see, or what I have seen a lot is, you know, people would do the best work that they can and it's a very vulnerable thing to, you know, do what you think is the best job from what you've got, the brief that you've been communicated.

You give that back.

Yeah. You're putting yourself

You are, yeah, this is, my piece that my interpretation of what you need. And, when people kind of dismiss it as. You know, just something that is trivial or could be changed quickly. It can be pretty disheartening. And with the advent of ai, I think there's this even wilder expectation from business leaders that don't really understand it, that, oh, AI can replace you any old day of the week.

You know, perhaps

what? No, exactly. But, perhaps it's not even that, Specific, maybe they're not that literal, but I think the undertone is there and creative people are are, you know, are doing their best work because they always wanna put forward their best.

Interpretation. And so for someone to just sort of flippantly say, Hey, I don't like it, or I just don't like the color, and I've had that feedback, you know, people will be like, I just don't like it. And they're not even the customer, And for someone to say that, it can be pretty disheartening. And so now you've gotta go back and do it again.

You are already, you've already got seven other jobs waiting. You know, you, you missed your daughter's, birthday party last night, or maybe that's a bit extreme, but maybe you missed something personal and you.

I don't think that's extreme. I think that's something that happens more often

Yeah, so add all that up and suddenly you've got this, you know, it's not a healthy state that these people are in. And so, you know, how do you deal with that? That's the, that's the big challenge right now.

Do you also think that that leads to an environment of perfectionism? That the people, and I know that we're specifically focusing on marketing creatives, but this could be applied broader, right? That I want to get it right the first time. 'cause I don't want to be told that I was wrong.

Yeah, I mean, I think that just is a sign that people care, you know, whether or not you're in sales or HR or. legal or marketing? I think, you know, you wanna do your best job possible because you also don't wanna repeat it. You know, you don't wanna do it, have to do it again. I think everyone's got a pretty stretch workload right now, so, yeah, I think naturally the people that care the most are the ones that are, are putting their best work forward from the beginning, but.

We also have to, say this with sort of one caveat, which is you also do have to be adaptable. You know, you, you do have to be coachable as well. So if someone comes back and says, Hey, I don't like that for these reasons, and they're, you know, and their sound reasons and there's actual thought behind them, well, absolutely, I'm gonna listen to that and be coachable.

And again, that's another part of resilience. But if it's just a pure opinion, I don't like it, or, you know. Do it again, then it's benefiting no one, and that stacks on the stress and anxiety big time.

Yes, yes. Now, I know that that is part of what you have built with the underlying culture of the people you lead today that literally are across the world. So we're talking all sorts of different cultures and personalities, et cetera. And there are two things as we were talking offline that I think are at the core.

Why you've been able to build this successful culture, the mantra of health over everything, and also practical techniques to be able to play that yin and yang balance in terms of this is what was good, this is the opportunity for improvement and this is how we move forward together.

Health Over Everything Philosophy

Yeah. Absolutely. So the first thing probably to address is health over everything. It's a, a good mantra. It's something I believed in. I, I think having a mother who was a nurse, health was always top of mind. You know, we weren't allowed junk, too much junk food in the house. And, um, you know, we were constantly being reminded of.

nutritional ways of eating and all that good stuff. Um, and so that's a mantra that I have had in business for the last sort of probably 10 years when I, I started to realize my own, uh, you know, challenges with some mental health, which was part of the, the journey that I've been on with resilient minds.

And Because if you don't have your health, you don't have anything, everything else.

I agree with that.

Everything else suffers. And so, yeah, that was always something I, I try to tell my teams, because I think, and that also creates a space, a sense of space, um, and security for them so that if they've been sick, uh, you know, I get it.

And we, and that's, that also helps foster a really strong culture of support so that when someone's feeling off, then others can pick up the slack. Um. So yes, definitely health over everything. Now, with that, it's great to talk about theory, but then I'm a big believer in actual practice, you know, in doing the reps and so me personally

I love that phrase,

do the reps.

Yeah, so my, my personal journey, I know that I feel much better when I've done my morning routine, which involves me, meditation, stretching, and some actual pushups, sit-ups, et cetera. The days I don't do that. I notice a difference, you know, I'm snappier with the kids. The day just doesn't start as well. and so yeah, I believe in actual practical tools and that's, that's what I really focus on when I do workshops and keynotes is not just this theory, but hey, here, here are some simple things.

And we've got it down to about 10 minutes a day, which is less than 1% of your day. If you invest that guaranteed to, you know, set yourself up slowly and build really

effective morning routines, particularly ones that are customized and individualized to you, not what you read in the books, right? Although you can get a lot of good information from the books, but ones that you have practiced and said. This works for me. I'm right there with you and I wanna bring it to how this plays into the home front in just a second.

But I do want to address an element which I know my listening audience could be thinking, which is I. Well, KARE, I would love to have that philosophy with the people that I lead, but I think they're just gonna abuse the system. I think they're just gonna take advantage of me, and I know that part of what you do in order to ensure that doesn't happen is effective boundary setting with an emphasis on high performance.

Boundary Setting and High Performance

Yeah, look, I think that there's always gotta be an element of, you know, reality with these, you know, with any of these practical tools, like we are operating a business and I. And I think what a lot of people these days want is they want the business to change. You know, they want the business to adapt.

And it's very difficult for an organization to change, dramatically. You know, the business operates. If you're working in an organization, business operates a certain way now to go and try and get everyone to change, to fit you is just unrealistic.

That

And so that's another element, which is you have to focus on what you can control.

And the easiest thing to do is to recognize that you are the one suffering with these, with this resistance, you know that. And so you are the only one who can really fix it. And that comes from the simple tools and actually, you know, spending time and energy. It's the same thing with anxiety. You know, if someone says something to you, I.

You are the one who interprets that, right? You take it away. Now, I'm not a medical practitioner. I wanna make that clear. I'm not a psychologist. I'm just, I'm just a guy who's been in several situations over my career where, you know, I've been worried. A boss says, Hey, I wanna talk to you on Monday on a Fri.

I get that message on a Friday afternoon. I spend the whole weekend going, oh my gosh. What? What? What have I done?

What I do. Right. It just, it just sits in your

Yeah, and then Monday comes around and it's just, he wanted to tell me that there's this new opportunity opening up, and maybe he's, you know, he's excited for me or whatever. You know, it, it turns out to be nothing that I was worried about. So, so I think the onus is, is ultimately all of that to say the onus is really on the individual.

And when it comes to sort of leading teams, it is really important that you build that trust. You leading a team of globally, you know, I'm. I can't see people that were operating in Singapore or South Africa. So there comes, you have to build this trust, and that trust comes from empathy. Getting to know them, getting to understand where they're at, but also seeing their work and making sure that if you feel that their work needs improvement, that they.

Ready to hear that. And that again comes back to that sort of coachability. So it's not a free for all by any means. It's a real, it's a two-way relationship where you, you are invested in who they are as much as they know that you care and you're there to support them.

I think one of the beautiful things in terms of being able to have this time with you is while we talk about how. You put this into practice for your professional team. You really are living a integrated life that we all preach around here, where all of the roles work and home and father and uh, husband and human being are all integrated.

And how in particular you are modeling the behavior. For your children, such as your meditation practice to teach the next generation,

Modeling Behavior for Children

Yeah, I think that's important. And it's, and it works both ways, right? Like if they see you on your phone, it's as. It's as impactful as, you know, if they see you meditating? I think so. I try really hard to do things in front of the kids. You know, I have my morning routine and sometimes it needs to be downstairs in, in the quiet time, you know, of the morning.

I. But then I often also try and do, you know, my pushups and my stretching right in front of 'em. You know, if they're up and they're upstairs, I'll, I'll do that sometimes. And, and it's the best when they join in. You know, it's the best. I try and do a hundred pushups every day and if I can get them to do 20 with me, it's a win.

Um, you know.

You know what? Hey, hey, twenties, better than zero. I

Totally. And, and I think that came from, I, I was lucky because I, I grew up in a household where my dad would meditate in the back garden and even do Tai Chi occasionally. So, you know, when I was a teenager I used to think, oh, look at that. Look at that guy, you know, out there and, you know, just kind of almost embarrassed, especially if I had friends staying over and he'd be out there in the morning, but.

But at the same day, it was just, I just saw it and I realized that meditation has done so much for him. And when I got to a time in my career, probably in my early twenties when I started to feel stressed, I real, I picked up meditation. It was a great obvious solution 'cause I'd been around it, growing up.

Yes. Yes, absolutely. I can't. Tangent to really getting to the core value prop of resilient minds without us talking a little with baseball and talking a little bit about our sons being big into baseball. And you have a particularly fond, uh, baseball practice story, which meant a lot to you as a father.

this escapes me now. I had

So I think that we were talking about, example of how, you know, what your son had, just had, uh, kind of a, uh, rough go, uh, at the plate, right? And that instead of doing what all kids do, which is throw a fit or slam their helmet or stuff like that, right? That he actually was pretty.

About, it and, got up to the plate the next time. Right. And, you know, had a big hit.

You know, I, I've, there's been so much happening in baseball over the last couple of weeks. We have been through the highs and lows in this season already. We started out at zero and seven. and just coming into the weekend that we just had, we were, we basically, you get a clean slate for a weekend tournament, right?

And we lost the first two games and we had to rally. So, I'm one of the assistant coaches and with the head coach, we kind of got behind, uh, we got, we got in front of the boys, sorry, and said, basically told 'em, Hey guys, we have to get back to the basics and. Do you know what the only, the most important basic is that you can do in baseball is just to focus.

And, and that became the mantra. I think I must have said the word focus six or 700 times over the weekend. We, we played a lot. We played five games in total. We, you know, what happened is we won three in a row. We went from, from losing nine in a row.

Particularly after having lost so many, right? Getting that first win must have been cathartic for.

It was so cathartic and the kids, you could see that switch as soon as they, as soon as the switch of came on with when, in terms of winning, it became something that they could totally. See the value in Oh yeah. If we focus, then we generally will play better. And with my son, that's what I always come back to.

So I always come back to breathing and focus. And when he's at the play, he's nearly in a, thou a thousand percent hitter. I mean, he's not, he's not a massive hitter, but the, the idea is get on base, you know, and.

On on base. OnBase produces Runs. Runs

That's it. And so every time I'm there looking at him, I'm always, I, I never really talk about how you swing it sooner or swing up, you know, or bend your knees or anything. It's really just about, remember to take a breath and,

Yep.

you know, nine times outta 10 when he takes that breath, if that's when he gets the hit and.

So it is just a really powerful reminder that just having that moment of calm when you know you're, you're at the plate. I mean, you're seven years old, eight years old, and you're at the plate. Everyone's watching that moment. It can be a little bit daunting, right? And so take that breath and then you'll be okay.

I.

Yes. Again, and I think that this is a beautiful segue to now let's focus specifically on resilient minds, and let's focus on one of the core things that Resilient Minds is about, which is the tools and techniques too. Balance forward, and a lot of these that you've packaged up are things that you've lived, so it's not just theory or something that you read in a book.

You've actually lived through this and are sharing this with the world.

Three Pathways of Resilience

Yeah, totally. There's, three sort of, pathways that I like to explore with resilient minds, and they, there's a lot of overlap, amongst the three. The first is really bounce forward, which is what you just mentioned, which is really about rejection failure. I. You know, when things go wrong, that losing, you know, we talked a lot about that on the, on the weekend.

It's like, how do you actually take a loss and get something out of it? you know, that comes down to baseball, that comes down to life. You know, you get made redundant. You does that? Open up a new door. I have tons of real world examples, that I like to talk about. I have this, I talk a lot about real life resilience with stories of others, but I also talk about the stuff that I've been through.

second one is handle hard better, which is really about how life is hard and it doesn't get easier. We just get better at handling hard, like. Hence handle hard, better. And that's really about, you know, eyes wide open, be ready for anything to happen, and get outta your comfort zone. If you, I like to take cold showers, for example.

Sometimes like when I really want a warm shower, it's, you know, it's, do it because I wanna remind myself that I'm in control. You know, so when you really want something and you, you deny yourself of that, it's just a nice little way to practice resilience. These are little tools.

Right.

And then the third one, which I think is really important right now with the such change, uh, afoot with tech and, you know, anything happening in the economy is shift to succeed.

That's the other pathway, which is really about adaptability, about being coachable, being ready to. Um, you know, evolve or adapt in, in any sort of circumstance. And I think that that's coming in handy. I was starting to talk to a lot of companies, particularly around change management, you know, because as they go through change management or they're preparing to go through change management, it's a really almost a great primer to make sure that their teams are ready and open-minded and ready to look at something from a different perspective,

that's so important. You know, we talk here that when we are saying how do we become better leaders of ourselves, that there are three principles that have to be in place to be effective leaders of ourselves. I. Awareness, belief and accountability. The fact that you're having these conversations in terms of, are you even aware so that these change management initiatives can be successful?

Right. Is encouraging in a lot of respects.

Yeah, absolutely. I think it's awareness is such a important piece of the puzzle. I mean, it sounds so simple, but that's what I remember all the time is, you know, the fact that we are aware of the scenario that we're in or the circumstances that we're in, or we're aware of others, that that's half the battle.

You know, and I, I notice that as well when I feel really. Like, I'm having a really tough day and I live and breathe this stuff every single day. I think to myself, wow, imagine the people that aren't even aware of, you know, what's going on in their mind right now because they're not really, they just haven't done the work or they, you know, they haven't necessarily been paying attention.

Or they, or they've been programmed. I mean, you know, I remember many years ago before I had my, you know, rock bottom that I was basically programmed to block it out, for lack of a better term, not be

Yeah, that's true. And it's, it's a really, you know, I, I'd be interested to ask you how you got through that. How did you find a way through to build that awareness?

Well, you know, I learned the hard way, right? And I don't advise my path for anyone. Don't get me wrong, right? But I think now what were the lessons that I learned that I try to apply in my practice and in my teachings? It is first things first. Take a step back and breathe. And just, you know what, come to a point where, you know, we talk about this concept of disassociated state, right?

For those who don't understand this concept, imagine that you are just looking around right now. I'm gonna plop your soul and I'm going to throw it up into the fly that's against the wall, and that is your state. Right. You'll have a completely different perspective on who you are and what you are seeing by being that fly on the wall versus being in your body, right?

So that is one of the biggest things that I learned, is just get out of your own damn body for every time to time, right? And be able to see a new perspective. And then you might be able to address things a little bit more rationally, a little bit more calmly.

I love that man. this comes back to what we were talking about at the beginning, which around perspective. Yeah. There's a lot that can be solved with the power of a breath too. Hey, like just taking a pause, taking that moment to just. Not react and, and actually give yourself a, a chance to respond.

Yes. Yes. And in addition to giving yourself a chance to respond. Giving yourself a chance to pause before the response. Giving yourself a chance to say, does this need a response? And if so, does the response need to come from me? So all of those ways that we can reduce the pressure, and I know that that's a big thing that you teach with.

Resilient minds in terms of these practical approaches that so long as you do the reps, as we've been talking about, right. That will become easier over time.

Practical Tools and Daily Practice

Absolutely. Yeah. That's one of the things that I, one of, whenever I do a workshop or a presentation, I try to get everyone to leave with this sort of checklist, and it just, it has 10 different things that they can do. They don't have to do them all. I don't want people to be spending 30 minutes, 60 minutes a day.

I. But it's literally, just try this. And you know, if, if you do that and you like it, do it again the next day and give yourself a little checkbox. You do that over seven days and you, you at least tick a couple of boxes every day. I. Guarantee that you'll start to see the benefits and start to be much more aware.

because these are things that aren't huge lifts. They're not things that require a, a massive amount of time or energy, and they, and no money, they literally just require a, you know, five to 10 minutes.

So as we begin to close up this, episode, I always do a little tip of the cap to, Randy P's book, the Last Lecture, and how he wrote that book before he passed away. And he said that this book was meant for his kids, right? So. We're gonna hit the time machine about 10 years from now, and your son, who is now old enough to be able to listen and appreciate this episode has now listened.

What are the big things you want him to take away?

I think I'd want him to be to, to remember and recall the lessons that I instilled in him and his brother. I. throughout his early years. You know, these aren't just things that I try to teach workplaces. I also teach kids, and I teach my kids in particular and, and the baseball team and any, any kids that I interact with.

And I think that these are fundamental. Lessons of life, you know, that we don't necessarily learn at school, unfortunately. And I'm trying to change that, because I think that we do need them, you know, we need to be able to handle defeat. We need to be able to breathe. We need to be able to put ourselves up on that wall while that fly that you mentioned, and see something from a different perspective.

So I, I hope that if he's listening in 10 years time, he is remembering all these lessons that he's seeing right now and he's. Going. Yeah, absolutely. This all rings true now and that's why, you know, I'm gearing up to play the majors. Maybe, you know,

Well, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll see. Right? I mean, like my, my son, my son is, uh, you know, about to try out for a high school ball for the first time. Right? So what, you know, you never know with these things, right? But, you know, you just want them to, I. Enjoy the experience. Right. You know, as uh, Vince Scalia said, don't be sad, it's over.

Be happy it happened. So at the moment that whenever that over is right, I want them to be happy that it happened.

I'm, I'm with you a hundred percent. And that was, I was just joking. But I, I agree. I, one of the mantras that we instill with the team as well is have fun. Like, we're here to have fun. You know, it's not all about, you know, the pressure and, you know, it's just when I, I like that quote, you know, be happy that it happened.

I think that's fantastic.

Absolutely. Absolutely. How can people learn more about you, KARE? How can they get engaged with resilient minds? give them some details.

Connect with Carré

Well, you can find me on LinkedIn. I post regularly on LinkedIn, uh, Kara LaPage. and I also have a newsletter I send out twice a week. It's the Resilience Brief. and you can sub, you can subscribe through LinkedIn or you can go to my website, which is resilient minds co.com.

Mm-hmm.

there's a bunch of tools there as well, and cheat sheets that you can download. and then I also just created a resilient self-assessment. Uh. Yeah, which you, it takes about three minutes, 25 questions, sort of five questions per category, and you fill that in online and it pops out a score straight away out of a hundred so people can kind of get a sense of how they are.

you can find that on my website as well. Yeah.

And we'll have all of those, links in the, uh, episode notes that, so that they're quick and easily accessed by the, uh, folks who are listening here. Kare, any final words before we close this episode out? This has been a blast, man.

It has been a blast and I love talking about, I mean, I talk, talk about resilience, baseball failure, learning growth. I love to talk about it all. I really appreciate it and one of the biggest tools that I have. In my toolkit is gratitude. And so Scott, I just wanna say I'm grateful to you, for having me on your podcast.

I appreciate it and I'm grateful that we have crossed paths as well. and so I appreciate it, man.

Appreciate you, man. Thank you so much, KARE, for spending the time with us. Thank you to my listening audience who has listened to this episode. Please make sure you take the wisdom here and employ it in your life. Subscribe and share this episode with those in your circle who could need it in their lives, and we'll see you next time on The Corpus Effect.

Take care.

Outro

Thank you for joining me on The Corvus Effect. To access today's show notes, resources, and links mentioned in this episode, visit www.thecorvuseffect.com While you're there, you'll find links to our free tools and resources to evaluate where you currently stand versus your aspirations with personalized recommendations for action. If you found value in today's episode, Please take a moment to subscribe wherever you get your podcast and share with those who may benefit from it. You won't want to miss future conversations that could transform your approach to leadership and life. Join me next episode as we continue our journey towards building lasting legacies that matter. Remember, it's time to soar towards your legacy.