The EOS Rebellion That Created System and Soul with Benj Miller

Episode Links:

System & Soul -- https://www.systemandsoul.com

Benj Miller -- https://www.benjmiller.com

LinkedIn: Benj Miller -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/benj-miller-business-growth-impact-framework-coach

Benj Miller Daily Newsletter -- https://www.systemandsoul.com/261


Summary:

In this episode of The Corvus Effect, Benj Miller, CEO and co-founder of System and Soul, reveals how he transformed from running what he calls a "frat party business" into building a framework that helps founder-led companies scale without sacrificing their soul. After a naive decision cost him his biggest channel partner, Benj faced a brutal choice: close up shop, scale back, or learn what it actually means to run a business.

Benj shares his journey from EOS implementer to renegade business coach, including why he fired himself from a client who only cared about their exit strategy. He explores the critical balance between systems and soul, his philosophy that companies should grow their people rather than use them, and why the number one thing he sees after business exits isn't a Lamborghini—it's a divorce. This conversation dives deep into creating operational independence, building authentic leadership communities, and the infinite ripple effects of healthy leaders.

Show Notes:

00:32 Guest Intro: Benj Miller, CEO of System & Soul

04:56 Early Career & Identity Crisis

08:18 EOS Journey and Evolution

11:39 Balancing Systems and Soul

15:16 The Renegade Leader Philosophy

18:26 Building System and Soul Framework

23:43 Creating Community and Impact

28:27 Legacy and Ripple Effects

33:48 Final Thoughts

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