TL;DL - Renegade Leadership vs Corporate Prison with Benj Miller
Summary:
This episode features a "Too Long, Didn't Listen" (TLDL) summary of my conversation with Benj Miller, CEO and co-founder of System & Soul. After experiencing his own brutal identity crisis in 2009 when his business grew 300% then nearly collapsed overnight, Benj discovered that businesses need both strong systems and authentic soul to thrive sustainably.
Key insights include why founders often mistake chaos for authenticity, the critical importance of clarity and accountability in leadership, and his philosophy that companies should use their business to grow their people rather than use people to grow their business. Benj reveals the sobering truth that the number one thing he sees after business exits isn't a Lamborghini - it's a divorce.
Show Notes:
1:31 Benj's Wake-Up Call
2:31 The Importance of Clarity and Accountability
3:29 Growing People vs Using People
4:53 The Founder's Accidental Prison
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